Moody Lentz was the curator of reptiles and general curator. And he reported to Marlin Perkins who was the director. And then our assistant director was Henry Sanders who also was curator of birds. So then as a result of all our exercises, Mike, Jerry Lentz and Bob Fru had already been promoted to assistant curators. But as a result of this program, Mike Fleig was promoted to assistant curator of birds and I was promoted to assistant curator, mostly education and reptiles. Kind of a dual question.
