But I also was a little bit of a ham and I told you I used to give talks on my front porch. Well I also gave talks to boy scout troops, girl scout troops, PTA meetings. And I had school groups come to my pet shop and I’d give ’em a tour. I had a pet alligator they got the touch and they touched a snake. And I was invited to give a talk at the Women’s Auxiliary of the Museum of Natural History in the St Louis area. And there was 100 women in the audience. It was sponsored by the Academy of Science. And I gave a talk and I had to be kinda humorous because women were not too keen on snakes, so I had to give a good humorous aspect.