No. Komodo dragons were a highlight for our zoo. I was visiting Indonesia and became very good friends with the director, and I saw that they had a number of Komodo dragons and we worked out a situation and I asked if it would be possible for Cincinnati zoo to acquire. And he gave us a pair of Komodos. Well, coming home I had, and I went to apply for permits, I had all kinds of problems because there was a consortium that blocked my permits. It was headed up by John Baylor and Jim Murphy, and they claimed we didn’t have enough experience in handling monitor lizards and et cetera, et cetera. So I went another route and through some board members, and the animals were then gifted to then President Bush and with the designation that they were to come to the Cincinnati Zoo, so that sort of circumvented that process. And later on, it gave me great pleasure when we bred the animals, and I was sent those individuals, the front page of the Cincinnati news.
