Well, I attended a giant panda conference with Warren Thomas in Beijing. And my reasons for going to China were not necessarily involving at that time giant pandas, they were involving the lesser panda, the red panda. I was gonna meet with officials to find out how we could acquire some of the Sinai race of the giant panda. But I went to the conference with Warren, and during the conference, David Jones, a director of the London Zoo offered (speaking foreign language) who was the director of Chapultepec in Mexico, their male giant panda. She had two females, but lo and behold, she had to refuse that offer. She didn’t have the space to house the male. So flying home, all of a sudden a light bulb went off, and I thought maybe I have a way of making this a good marriage.