He says marginal. He was nursing this beetle on his hand. He was a wonderful man. And they ended- Between Mylon and Randy- Well, getting back, we began to get more and more comfortable. So I approached two ladies from the Crosley- they were sisters of Powel Crosley. Crosley was a very famous name in Cincinnati. They operated the TV network, and they had a lot of appliances, built radios and all kinds of kitchen appliances, so they were a very wealthy family, and Powel died, and he was owner of the Cincinnati Reds, but his sisters were still alive, and I had collected insects when I was a kid in Chicago and I had a preserved insect collection and a lot of beautiful butterflies and I brought them in. They were looking for something to dedicate to Powel, and I convinced them over a period of time, it wasn’t easy, that an insect building might be a unique way of, in memory Powel.
