And he had a mouse taped, a taped up mouse to a board, and there was a 100 mosquitoes feeding off the, he had shaved the mouse’s belly and a 100 mosquitoes feeding off that mouse. I ran in there, I said, Mylon, you can’t do that. The public will be on my back. You know, I’ll be accused of cruel- He says, but I’m afraid if I let the mouse loose, it would hurt the mosquitoes. So here’s where your values lie. And another time, he came into a staff meeting one time and he was holding his hand like this.