The Cincinnati Zoo, when I took it over, we received very little capital money from the city. We received free water and sometimes slight cap- When they were plush and had some capital monies, they would give us a small amount of capital money, but it was a privately run organization, one of the very few of its kind in the country. And that was good and that was bad because a lot of things- When there were bad years, they would have to make it at the gate and they didn’t make budget, they would cut out on maintenance, and that was what took the zoo down. The maintenance, the sewers were collapsing. We still had wood lined sewers if you can imagine that in the 20th century. It was just awful. People wouldn’t begin to realize what a difficult place we walked into. So you came from a public zoo.