I was mentored by a number of the head keepers. I had a very good friend. He wound up to be one of my dearest friend, Joel McHale, he was a character. He worked as a senior keeper, but I got a lot of good advice from Joel. Just common, plain common sense advice, and you were able to get along in that culture. Without his advice, I think I would have found it difficult, because working with non people that didn’t care about animals and you had to work side-by-side with them at times was a little difficult. You mentioned Marlin Perkins was the director.
