And I said, and I’d like to use my experience at the zoo as well as my field research. And he said, okay, put a syllabus together, put a course proposal together, get it back to me. Let me take a look at it. We’ll talk about it in the department, and we’ll see where we go with that. And I think that was along about 1990 and I taught during the winter quarter at DePaul and offered that, and it was a sellout. It was the largest class and it still is the largest class the biology department offers without a lab. It always I’ve been teaching it since then with only one year of interruption because of AZA responsibilities. It’s always more than 50.
