My association with DePaul University kind of was a fortuitous. When I went back to get my PhD, I went back because it was a unique opportunity. A guy I’d gone to high school with, played basketball with during high school was the then who was a PhD, was the then recruiter for the Department of Biology at the University of Illinois in Chicago. And he called one day and said, you know, I know you got a master’s. He says, and I know you’ve got some hours over.