Well, the species survival plan came out of, came out of, a species survival plan was AZA’s first organized conservation effort. And it was mandated by the outgoing president, Ed Murrow Scott. He said, zoos need to do something for conservation. We need a plan, we need a species list. We need a set of criteria for identifying the species to go on the list and zoos need to voluntarily, cooperatively, manage these populations in captivity as a conservation management activity, we have to do this, this is our responsibility. And so I, along with the then conservation committee, Wildlife Conservation and Management Committee, were charged with developing the criteria, developing a preliminary list of species that needed assistance, set forth obligations to responsibilities of cooperating institutions. And it was all being done on a voluntary basis. It was all institutions cooperating with one another now for the good of the animals.
