And when the AZA changed from being a profession, to being an industry, a lot of things changed. And one of those was, you take care of me, I’ll take care of you, your word is your bond. And we worked collaboratively and cooperatively to a common good. I think that’s true for some things today but very much has gotten to be an individual institution takes care of the individual institution because it’s the need to survive. It’s the need to generate revenue. It’s the need to hold a position in an individual community. And so the animal portion of it, which was so important to us, all who were growing up then has kind of taken a back seat to some of the other activities, not only of zoos, but also of the profession. As you were moving through your career at Lincoln Park Zoo, was your philosophy evolving and changing.
