Not the last 15 years I was there. Terry did rounds, my assistant director. She was hands-on, expected her to be hands-on, but I did not. The last 15 years I was there, I pretty much was 100% the head development person. I didn’t have even a senior development person. I was it towards the last couple of years, and I was still doing quite a bit of the accounting and then development work. And so, Terry would do rounds. I mean, I would go out once in awhile and they’d, but it was almost like when Bill would go out once in awhile, it was like, “Oh my God, she’s on the grounds.
