And so, we computerized very early on compared to all of our colleagues because I understood them and I put my way through graduate school programming ’em for professors and as soon as there was such a thing that I thought we could buy, we bought some of the original personal computers ever made were sitting in my office at Living Desert in my little tiny place ’cause I knew the value. So, my point of this is that when we started computerizing studbook San Diego is managing a lot of studbooks all by hand. And I said to Jimmy, “Look, let’s get these things computerized.” And he’s says, “Well, I can’t because our systems here don’t run that stuff.” And I said, “I’ll do ’em. You give me the data and I’ll take ’em all home.” And so, I put the Arabian Oryx studbook into computers. I put slender horn gazelles into computers, Morris gazelles, Cuvier’s gazelles, you name it and pretty soon, even though these studbooks were held in the name of San Diego, I was doing all the manual labor and we just worked together and I said, “This is something I can give back to San Diego and support San Diego, and so Jimmy said well, “You and I will be the co SSP coordinators for Oryx.” And I said, “Okay, whatever.” So, I was able to fortunate, lucky, because I have to be lucky sometimes as well as good. I was lucky that there was a Jim Dolan who believed in getting these animals in and doing something with ’em and I could help him do something with ’em, so. You mentioned Arabian Oryx.
