And so when we decided, when they voted in 1971 to separate from the National Parks and Rec’s, they needed somebody to do their newsletter and I was perfectly capable of doing that from a variety of reasons of vast historical things I had done in my professional career and laying out and publishing newsletters was something I could do easily. I had the skill set to do from prior jobs I’d had working my way through school and I didn’t even hesitate for a second. I just said to ’em in the board meeting that I’ll do the newsletter and they said, “Fine, Karen’ll do the newsletter.” And I did it. And so, backing up to your question, after the first couple of years of my being around meetings and doing things, I was just Karen. I wasn’t Karen the woman, and I never wanted to be Karen the woman. I just wanted to be Karen, Karen, the zoo director, Karen doin’ her job for the Association, just Karen. And it was not hard to do that, for me anyway. I mean, I just did it and I have always felt very strongly and that over time I’ll go forward a little bit, as more and more ladies came into the profession, some of them would came to me and said, “We were amazed that you did what you did, and you’re a role model for women,” and I actually got fairly angry with them about that because I said, “No, I hope I’m not a role model for women.” And they said, “Well, why would that be?” And I said, “I just wanna be a role model for what it is to be a good director.