So, I mean, they might be contradictory orders. So, but George did more follow up and checking up and George showed more interest in what I was, the challenges that I faced in the collection. Whereas K Crowcroft was like, if we bred some species that hadn’t been bred before, because Jimmy Rowell didn’t want them to breed you. Peter made out like, oh, this is what, this is what we need in a curator. Look at the stuff she’s breeding here. And Jimmy was kind of like wincing because now they had to get rid of the offspring. So he was breeding stuff he didn’t wanna breed with good reason, you know. So there was that difference between Crowcroft and, and Rabb.