But Ted Reed got that being as bonnet by going to Jersey and who was it at Jersey that followed Jeremy Mallinson Mallinson. Jeremy Mallinson. And he heard about the bull line, the GLT and the problems it was facing. So he came back and he wanted to help. And so he told Eisenberg, he said, you know, you need to get something going on the Golden Lion Tamarins, they’re really endangered and they’re beautiful species and public loves ’em. And, and you should get Devra working on that. So John mentioned to Devra and she, her view is, this is the university of free thought and no administrator’s gonna tell me what I’m gonna do research on. So she rejected it out hand offhand.
