But we could breed ’em in much larger numbers. And nobody was worried about the population bomb or anything like that at the time. And then he wanted Bactrian camels. He got, he got a b in his mind about bact camels. And in a way, what Ted did is he, he, he created a problem for himself by hiring somebody like Eisenberg and all these scientists that started to come on and get hired on the staff. So, you know, Dale Marcellini came on, he had a PhD in Jaren Horsley. He didn’t get a PhD, but he was at SF State Marcellini Horsley and I all came from SF State, far end, other end of the country. We all ended for, ended up at the National Zoo for some strange reason.
