But then when he started getting a little more serious, and I went, yeah, that’s what zoos ought to be doing is besides just having one of everything because I mean, we really did rank our institutions with, “I’ve got one of these, you don’t have one of those.” And Jim Dolan and I used to laugh as we got a little older that at that time a collection plan was if the director knew anything about animals and some of ’em did, many of ’em didn’t, but was do I like it and is it pretty?
