And I, and she said, you told me that if you’re really serious about learning or working with African mammals, go to Africa, you know, get the airfare, go to Africa and meet the people who are working with them. Don’t try and do it by the mail. And that advice was given to me by Byrd Harrison. He said, if you wanna work in Asia, he said, we’re really crappy at answering letters. So if you want to go to Asia, come on over and meet us personally, and things can start to happen. So I just gave her the same advice that Bernard had given me. But she said, she turned out, she went on, she’d did her PhD on, on Cusey manes, and this was happily employed and everything. And I felt that was gratifying.
