He was up at Yale, I can’t remember his last name. He did a lot of studies of zoo visitors and how they sort out what they know and what they don’t know and that sort of thing. And I think, you know, since times change wouldn’t hurt to do that if each zoo studied their visitors and knew how they felt about various things in the zoo. So they had a good handle on it, it could help their policies and their educational policies in designing them or refining them so that you can affect how people feel about nature and wildlife in general. I remember that Stossel had a program on TV and he was horrified. This was back when I was still working at the zoo, used to have this evening program, and he’s a conservative individual and he found out that there was a program in an, in environmental education and he did some investigation of what they did and found out that they wanted to affect young people and how they felt about the environment and what they understood about the environment. And he was just horrified at that. He got on that program and I saw him and he was, you know, practically ranting about this tragedy that we’re brainwashing people to understand environments and changing their attitudes.
