And they built facilities in the parks and everything. And a lot of good things happened as a result of that relationship. And we got a whole team of people trained as excellent field biologists and they’re still over there. It’s just that the, it’s probably not a high priority of the government now, it wasn’t really a high priority then, but there were sectors within the government where people really wanted to see these things done. And those were the sectors that we interacted with and and made things happen. So that was, for me, that was kind of my swan song at the institution as well as the Elephant ethics book, which was co-edited with Kate Kristen, who was Peter Lyme goer’s wife at the time. As, as the person in charge of front oil, I presume you had surplus animals.
