He went on to get a PhD, I think out of Bat Thai University. And he’s now written a book about the birds of, I dunno if it’s Northern bird, I don’t have it, but all based on that field work. And they were collecting specimens. I mean they were putting up mis nets and collecting specimens and making specimens that went into the museums and were looking at taxonomic relationships and all that sort of thing. And George Zog came from the Museum of Natural History and did reptiles and amphibians. And then the Cal Academy of Sciences kind of joined with us. Cal got a very aggressive program going with NSF funding. Joe Zelinski, who lost his life over there being bitten by a crate.
