We like to ask the hard questions, but I, I would say in the early days I was impressed with the things I saw in Europe, the German zoos. Reed always wanted you to go see the German zoos and the Dutch zoos and see how they did things. And I know that the staff was sent on various trips abroad to look at exhibits that we might get ideas from. So I think that was a valuable experience. And one thing that’s nice about working in a zoo is you have an excuse for going to zoos and you can’t be faulted for that. Somebody might say, well you’re just, you’re just having fun going to zoos. Well yeah, it’s part of my job, you know, so, you know, we all did that. We all had to go and look at those very zoos and meet the young curators who are often peers and you know, you got ideas doing it.