Right. Well, by that point, I’d been hired by the Living Desert. That in itself was kind of an interesting piece of luck, although I always tell young people, you make your luck to a certain degree. You gotta have some luck, but you can’t stay at home waiting for luck to strike. You have to be out being there. And my dear friend, Susie Reef, had moved to Tucson after leaving Illinois and we had always stayed in contact and I used to go over and visit her. And she knew Bill Woodin, who was at that time, the founding director at Arizona Sonora. And so, we would go over there frequently and I loved that facility.
