And I think I’ve listened to those tapes now this last winter I listened to ’em ’cause I’m digitizing those tapes. One of the things I realized is that there was the, it was very complicated subject and it needed to have some validation of techniques to prove that what you said you were me measuring is what you were measuring. So while the data were suggestive and interesting, I really would’ve needed, or somebody else someday I hope, would take this on before it’s too late and carry that experiment, those experiments to their termination. One of which would’ve been to measure cortisol in the elephant and the hoot to see how the str, if there’s any correlation between stress hormones and the proficiency of the hoot in getting the elephant to perform its various behaviors, commands to respond to specific commands. So that was something that I did. And then we had a student in Sri Lanka that did a study of hoot elephant relations and kind of investigated the attitudes of hoots towards elephants, the macho factor and all that sort of thing. And she did we, we developed a body condition index, Christian Murti and I and several other Indian veterinarians. And that was published in zoo biology.
