Well, my title was Curator of Small Mammals, but I was in charge of the large carnivores and the bears. So I was actually in charge of the, the bear, the bear grottos, the lion house, the small mammal house. And then they gave me the Australia house and, and that was it. But I had a, i, I developed a good rapport with the people that were there. I liked them and they were interesting keepers and everybody, I liked the keepers. There was an old keeper in the Lion House. Joe Zer was his name. He was a, a veteran from the Second World War, raised in a German American family.
