And I came out and I, they flew, flew me out, flew me out in my circulation. My feet was bad for, ’cause my shoes were too small. And I had two pairs of socks on and I bought my, I had an eight millimeter projector and I brought some films to show them Janet behavior. And I went out there and I talked about small mammals and managing gens in captivity and predator be predaceous behavior. I have pictures of Janets killing rats and all kinds of crap. So, so I showed it to the scientist, Gil Boey, Ben Beck, George Rab, Rob Horwich, I don’t know who else was there, but they had a little research building and, and I showed ’em what I was doing and, and to make a long story short, I got the job. And when I went to Brookfield, somebody told me, they said, you know, or Crowcroft I think told me, he said, he said, we had hundreds and hundreds of applicants for that job from all over the world. We even had applicants from Egypt.
