And he gave me, he got it, audioly improved. They edited it and cleaned it up so you could hear it better. And basically they wanted to, you know, gimme the ax job and get me out and make a deal with him. And I, I knew that he had that meeting and he was so upset by the things that had been said in that meeting that when I called up, Lori told me, you know, when he, he got back that day, Lori told me he can’t talk right now, give him some time and he’ll call. And then he called me back and he just said, you know, it was a coup, it was behind the scenes, kind of, let’s get rid of this guy. And then there was a, there was, I forget what her name was, but she worked for very high undersecretary sort of level in the institution. She had been Newt Gingrich’s aide and she had a Smithsonian job.
