So he wanted to close, actually it was, I think it was three different units of the Smithsonian. Each of them had the name conservation in their titles. One of them was a materials conservation lab that dealt with conserving archival materials, paper and wood and things like that. And they were the specialists within the institution that dealt with that. He wanted to close that down ’cause of that word conservation. So anyway, that’s, that ended it. But then the whole institution was really thrown, thrown into turmoil over this. And nothing was as it had been, we always knew what to expect.
