Was she working under Mitch? I can’t remember. I don’t think she was. I think Mitch, I can’t remember. It was a traumatic period in the latter phase of my development at, at the zoo, my career. And there’s probably some, some forgetfulness that’s crept in. But anyway, she was announced as the director. And it, it’s, everybody was kind of shocked because I think Lucy was regarded as a good veterinarian. She was certainly devoted to her work, and she was, you know, always on call. And she had good rapport with the keepers.