But Ted Reed got that being as bonnet by going to Jersey and who was it at Jersey that followed Jeremy Malson Malson. Jeremy Malson. And he heard about the bull line, the GLT and the problems it was facing. So he came back and he wanted to help. And so he told Eisenberg, he said, you know, you need to get something going on the Goldline Tamron, they’re really endangered and they’re beautiful species and public loves ’em. And, and you should get Deborah working on that. So John mentioned to Deborah and she, her view is, this is the university of free thought and no administrator’s gonna tell me what I’m gonna do research on. So she rejected it out hand offhand.