And I always gave John copies of ’em. I was very pleased when I saw that he even had ’em on the walls of his house. You know, like a 10 wreck sticking his head out of a cardboard nest box. And John had it on the wall of his living room. So yeah, gene Linac was there and then John hired a biotech and he actually offered me the biotech job. But it would’ve meant a disruption in my education. ’cause I was taking, I had to take a ton of undergraduate courses or graduate courses in ecology and physiology. ’cause those were my two minors.