It was like the catacombs. And it was horrible under there. His fungus growing on the walls and stuff was when they hosed down the lion cages stuff was coming out of the foundation into the place. You had to get the hell out of there ’cause it stunk so much. It was not a suitable place to have animal cages. But they did the best they could. He had Selena Dons and he had a big collection of 10 wrecks from Madagascar. And so anyway, they, you know, the zoos started to change with Eisenberg’s presence. And he was a very dynamic person.