And the other thing is that Mike Robinson was a very good competitor. Mike was a very eloquent speaker and he had a long history with the Smithsonian Institution. And he was kind of at that age where if he was going to advance and go up, this was, was it, I was still in my, I don’t know if I was in my early forties maybe. And so Mike got the job and I was perfectly happy to go back at that stage of the game to go back to the center because I had things that I could do. And I had a taste of living in Washington and I knew I could do the job. I was afraid that it would be difficult. But I found out with the staff you had, we had good people, you know, it was pretty easy really. You just had to listen to people and make things happen.
