But that took care of the problem. So we were seen in a more favorable light by our detractors after that happened. But when I think that that particular incident gave Secretary Ripley the ammunition and that he needed to get rid of Reed, and I told this to Mark Reed, he didn’t know this, but he felt that you got us into this embarrass, embarrassing situation, Ted. It’s time for, for you to think about retirement. And Ted was not ready to retire. In fact, we were all very happy with Ted as a leader. Everything was going quite well in the zoo. There had been some personnel changes within the zoo that had disruptive personalities in them, brilliant people and everything.
