And he’d tell you, oh, you know, it’s the yellow warblers are coming through now and, and the Indigo buntings are starting to nest. And then he’d, I found some really interesting findings about the Song of the Indigo Buntings. And he’d go on and on and, and it was, it, I enjoyed so much seeing somebody that was enjoying doing their science. And Gene was, he always inspired us to just to listen to ’em and see that. And he was dragged into creation with all the problem personnel problems and everything else. And White Purple Martins that were eating mouse pups, you know, At, at for Royal was the largest animal, the B train camel.
