It’s best for Deb’s I to stay in the, in the city. He realized that the work at CRC was not gonna be much research ’cause there wasn’t much of a collection there. And he said, but we’re gonna need a supervisory mamm to oversee the mammal collection to get it started. And so I said, well, I’m interested. And then Jaron Horsley, who is an old buddy of mine at SF State, he was the general curator at the zoo, said, I’m sending in the applications, fill him out and send it back. She says, we’ll put it in. So I put it in, I don’t know who else applied for it, but I got the job. So on October 5th, 1975, we arrived at CRC with the U-Haul filled with our meager belongings.