So it was a great job. And I remember Don Bridgewater and Bill and also wore an iff, were up there one day and the red panda had a baby they had given birth and was carrying the baby in the cage. And by that time I had watched enough animal behavior that I knew what was happening. ’cause I’d seen this with the gens and I knew that when you see this pattern of carrying them, you gotta get the baby away from ’em and get them in a place where they feel secure because, and it was best not to get the baby away. If they set it down, you could do that, but never try to take it outta their mouth ’cause they would crush it. And so I told ’em, I said, you know this, from what I’ve seen, this baby has to be pulled because she’s too nervous in this cage with these visitors on all side. It was a circular pen and there were people on all sides. She didn’t feel secure. She needed an alternative dinner too, where she could go up a tree maybe and feel secure. So they pulled it. So that was kind of the first time I, I saw my own behavioral know knowledge put to practice in the zoo.
