Well, I was, I guess I’ve always been a very pragmatic person. I was studying to be a mathematician because I knew I could get a job. I didn’t ever think I could ever get a job in zoos, or I wasn’t even sure if I wanted to be in zoos. I knew I wanted to work with animals. And I also knew I didn’t want to be a veterinarian because that was usually the career choice, “Oh, I wanna work with animals. I’ll be a vet.” Well, I knew I didn’t really wanna be a vet. I didn’t think I was cut out to be a vet. And I think that said to this day would be true ’cause I wouldn’t have been a very good vet, ’cause I got too emotionally involved in the patient and that would be counterproductive, but I didn’t know what else I could do in animals at that point.