That was, it Was it, That was his advice because we, we were going through some issues at the time, a ZA was, and Tom Fuss and I had just Dr. Fuss and I had just come back from Southeast Asia and you know, we were trying to get the Somo and Rhino program going. And it began to, the program began to take a turn in direction from where Tom and I had, had originally thought we could move it in. And it almost started to turn towards just getting specimens. And that’s not what Tom and I went over there. Our goal was to help Malaysia at the time, which is where we started. And, and I actually, we did, ’cause I, I designed the Malaka Zoo breed breeding facility for Sumatra and Rhino. The idea was to develop their program, get reproduction going so they could support their populations.
