And it became a real issue. And I, I finally got ’em all together and basically worked out that a blandings is a blandings is a blandings, same way with Panthers. They have a long generation time and they’ve only been isolated in these small pockets for less than 70, 80 years. And so the idea that you don’t think we can move one from one population to another, that we’re gonna cause a catastrophic downfall that po that’s insane. We want genetic flow. And they just weren’t getting that. There was a whole thing against that, especially the field biologists. And it took a long, long time for the state to go, okay, we need to create a recovery program. And then they, they pick three big populations, say, we’re gonna maintain those isolated landings, take about 1500 acres because the male does what we call a walkabout.
