And, and of course there was a real big stigma about anybody that worked with a ranch because of an organization called Game Coin. I dunno if you remember them. And they would import hoofstock, which is how San Antonio got their big hoofstock collection with the idea that the hoofstock that they bred at the zoo would go out to these ranches. Well, some of the ranches wanted to be hunt ranches, you know, canned hunts. And it, it, it was a bad thing and it left a bad taste in our mouths as well as the public mouth. And so we went around and looked at those and said, how else can we do this to not get ourselves into the position of having to euthanize things all the time or manage demographically to, to meet the needs of that species. And it was a tough situation. It was interesting. It was fun. We saw a lot of beautiful ranches, but it, it was a hard thing to do.
