You know, that’s interesting. Julie Seale, who is Dr. Seal’s no longer with us, began a group that we originally called the Captive Management Specialist Group. And then they changed it and now it’s the Conservation Planning Specialist group. And I think what’s, and the idea was to connect zoos and field conservationists, try to bridge that gap and bring ’em together to show ’em what zoos can contribute to and how they could support field conservation. And it’s changed quite a bit now. In fact, I, I had a conversation with Paul Rodriguez who’s the chair of the specialist of the conservation specialist groups and the SAC and I told Paul, I said, you know, I think that group has kind of changed enough that it’s no longer what it was. And I’ve, I’m a member of it and I’ve gone to meetings, but I went to it and said, you’re not really looking at how Zeus can really support and help you now. And that needs to change.
