And I said, sure. So he had an office down in Coconut Grove and I, I went down there and met him and Jonathan Stern had shown up and they were having a meeting. And after two days of being there, I had pretty much red marked almost everything. These guys were great designers, but they didn’t design zoos right, or animal enclosures or habitats. And so I went through it and just marked out everything, you gotta change this, you gotta do this. Here’s what you need back here. It, it kind of took ’em back a little bit. But Pat knew who I was and knew what I did with the Komodo exhibit in Miami. So he took it into Jonathan while Jonathan was down there from the board up in Ogden, which actually had, their board was at Plaza One and they owned the Anaheim Stadium in California and they owned the big auditorium outside of Plaza one for the knick plate.