And he created these courses and I was able to get in to the first set of classes. But two years after I left and was at the university, Columbus made them stop teaching those classes because the school group, the Indiana School Board said it was unfair that kids at Columbus High School were getting advanced courses that would help them into college and other things. And so they, they made him stop teaching that, but in the meantime, he’d gone to Indiana State and had worked under a gentleman by the name of Bill Hopp, HOPP. And because of that, I knew who he was. So I ended up at Indiana State and I worked under bill hopp and there, I, I originally started out, originally started out in business management because my father being vice president of Hamilton Cosco, wanted me to go into the business side of things, but that’s just not where I was, that’s not where my heart was. So after about two and a half years, I said, you know, dad change the subject. And went back to the life sciences and Dr. Hopp and I got to know each other really well.