So I treated a lot of circus animals, worked on, you know, the, the Clauser bears and Willie Kugler’s chimps and Kirby chimps, and even did some work with Gunther Gable Williams, a lot of his animals, but I also did a fair amount of work in transporting animals, both for the zoo. An interesting story was when I first met Clayton Freiheit, everybody in the zoo were all those Clayton Freiheit, Claus Van Heisinger up at Wasaga beach, you know, who was, had bought some animals that are, at, at well, what was now AZA, but it is a zoo meeting. And, and he bought a lion from us. And, and somewhere along the line, we agreed that transported up there to Wasaga Beach, which is up on Georgian bay, off of Hudson Bay in Canada, in February. And he, and he called up just before we were getting ready to bring the lions some and some Macaques up and said, oh yeah, by the way, I got a aoudad in Cleveland, Ohio.
