I mean, you can’t, it’s difficult to, to judge. And, and Conway today would have a lot more trouble with HR stuff and stuff. ’cause the way he, he, it was Conway’s way or the highway. And you can’t do that today. Now. Oh, well, you know, now you’re gonna have these group therapy sessions because you traumatized somebody mentally. ’cause you said something wrong to them that they screwed up. You know? So, but those guys really, I mean, to me, not so much heger, I knew who he was, you know, but Conrad Lorenz was, was, was more, ethology was more the guy that fascinated me. ’cause he worked with these, with the gray Legg geese, you know, and they followed him around and the imprint that stuff that, that fascinated me.
