Well, you’re talking about history. And I think, I like the phrase, I don’t know who said it. History doesn’t repeat itself, but it has the same rhyme. If we look back in human history, we make the same mistakes over and over again. Just different players. And so it’s so important to learn from some of these trailblazer. Yeah. They don’t know HeNe, Heer is, unless you read his books. He, he was, he really changed the way we thought about the psychology of zoo animals. And then, and, and Conway, Conway took, you know, the Conway was the, was the, the guy that put the word conservation into zoos in, in, in, in, in a way that really worked.
