And, but that dynamic there, it, it got, it got tension filled. One time when Judson Green, who was our, the head of Disney Parks, was talking to Bill Conway and, and the board, and, and Bill and Russ, and were recommending that they establish a fund for conservation before you open the park. And, but they wanted a certain number. And Judson said, well, that’s too much. And finally, and he is given all his justifications. And finally Conway looks at him and says, Judson, I understand what you’re saying, but you’re a billion multi-billion dollar company. That argument’s not gonna fly. And Judson’s, who is nobody ever said that to.
